What's This Place? Behind the Clicks and Mortar with Miranda Black

Random Acts of Green

June 28, 2022 Miranda Black Season 2 Episode 2
What's This Place? Behind the Clicks and Mortar with Miranda Black
Random Acts of Green
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Miranda Black sits down with Jessica Correa from Random Acts of Green to learn why it's important to have some green goals even if they are little ones. 
Jessica shows us how small actions can create huge ripples and how to gain confidence developing your own sustainable style.

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Random Acts of Green

[00:00:00] Miranda Black: If we're going to start this sustainable style journey together, it's important to have a few tools. We need to find our why finding why is super popular right now, so on trend. And we need to build out a community which has been hugely beneficial to me on days when I struggle with: ah, what's the point. I'm just a bucket bailing out on ocean. 

I know you feel me. Well, my next guest specializes in give- up- ism. 

I found Random Acts of Green on Instagram, kind of well, randomly. I saw a post and I thought they were from Europe because their messaging is super savvy. The post was called Planet Bootcamp, aligning the way we approach our health and fitness goals to going green. They broke it down into beginner, intermediate and advanced actions you can take to be a bit greener, 

all in a one by one ratio! Seemed a bit radical. Radical in its simplicity and equality: there's ideas for everyone, no matter how ungreen you're starting at. I was for sure they were German or maybe Swiss. I responded to one of their posts and then I won a contest. I started thinking this whole thing is one of those Instagram hoaxes. 

So I wrote and I said, it's okay, please do not ship a prize halfway across the planet. Well, Joke's on me cause Random Acts of Green is from Peterborough, Ontario. They're just ingenious at communicating these complex ideas to large groups of people. I love their green for all platform. Jessica Correa, the founder of Random Acts of Green is a force of nature, or maybe a force for nature is more apt. She's got an unbridled optimism for humanity that I personally struggle with. She genuinely believes we can make small changes, which will make a difference in the direction the heat on this planet is headed. 

It's radical optimism and it's just what I needed to hear. Small note: Peterborough was hit by a devastating Derecho the week before we recorded this and I'm actually from the area originally. I happened to be there visiting my family. It was humbling to see the power and to consider that these events are only increasing because of this tiny rise of heat, a percentage point. Jessica was also shaken and stirred by the disaster, but she powered through to record the interview. 

So who is Jessica Correa and what is Random Acts of Green?

 Jessica Correa: My name is Jessica Correa and Random Acts of Green is a social enterprise aiming to inspire people to do their part for the planet in big and small ways. like wastewater, energy, food, transportation. as well as sustainable fashion. we've got a lot of different activities and ideas that people can take to reduce their carbon footprint, but also to go beyond thatand get more people involved in sustainability. Inspiring friends, families, coworkers, and you know, office spaces, businesses to take action too as well. 

 Miranda Black:: Right. The thing that struck me was, I personally get that thing where you think I can't make a difference cause I'm just one person it's too overwhelming. And so you get the 'give-uppies' and a quote of yours that I hold onto when I feel. like there's no hope left is that your mission is to disprove thinking that one person cannot make a difference for the planet and that small changes add up. You consider yourself eternally optimistic. And I thought, well, she's the ying to my yang because I consider myself eternally pessimistic.

[00:03:41] Jessica Correa: Yeah. That's so funny. Yeah definitely Here at Random Acts of Green, we do focus on individual lifestyle changes. We like to ensure that there's a community thread that is sewn between one person doing something and another person on a different area, doing something too, to showcase that yes, we can all work together and yes, your changes do matter and they can all add up as a group, as a collective, rather than as one individual.

So we need to look at sustainability, like a community, a group of people taking action and doing their part. But re can we really make a difference. And you know, it's sort of like a , get real moment. Can one person, where is it in you that you really genuinely believe that your actions can make a difference when One space flight by Jeff Bezos, or 10 bombs going off in Ukraine is going to create more heat on this planet than anything we can do.

[00:04:40] Miranda Black: How do you get through those moments of like, okay, great, I just I bought at a thrift store. I saved myself not contributing to more textile waste, the balance is so off. But you seem to have found this tranquil place of balance.

[00:04:59] Jessica Correa: Yeah, I think that's, it's a really good question and it comes back to that argument: okay, we're just one person. Okay, the corporations are the ones that are making the biggest mess and they're the ones that are actually impacting and making more greenhouse gas emissions than some countries are even.

So there's an argument to be said what's the point, right? Like why, why on earth should I eat vegan? Why on earth should I compost or plant a veggie garden this summer. What's the point. There's no point in doing that. And it's funny because who makes Jeff Bezos so rich? It's us, right? How many people are buying from Amazon? How many people are purchasing from the corporations, how many people are voting in politicians that aren't doing their part and aren't taking climate change seriously. It's groups of people. And that's something that people forget all the time is everybody wants to point finger where it's oh, it's the corporation.

Oh, it's the government. Butthose people get there because of groups of people that are either voting with their dollars, they're voting with their wallet when they purchase something from one of those organizations or they're voting with their vote, like literally voting with their vote.

They're voting for people that aren't taking the climate crisis seriously. And so, I, I hate when people point fingers at, okay, individuals can't do anything and corporations can't do anything and governments can't do anything and nobody's doing anything. And it's like, well, all of these conglomerates are just people.

And so really it comes down to people that we need to change. And whether that's with a small change, like you said, changing by percentage changing slightly. It really comes down to if people aren't passionate about something, if they don't care, if they don't understand it, they're not going to take an action for it, whether that's within a corporation or within the government.

 these problems are all connected, they're holistic. You can't take one out and, remove it from something else. We're all connected. We're all either working for an organization that isn't doing their part, or we are

[00:06:48] Jessica Correa: within the government that might not be doing their part either, or just, in our local communities and within our neighbors, our streets, our families, our friends within our circle of influence we also might not be doing our part. That's really what it comes down to is people making the change, standing up and leading by example.

 Leadership is measured in the hearts of those who follow, right? So if you're leading and if people are following and you're genuinely switching, the next barbecue you go to, if it's meat dominant and you're the one that has a veggie burger, you might get that conversation going.

If you're that one neighbor on your street this May that decided to do No Mow May to help the polinators exist and actually have a place to eat, right? If you're that one neighbor you are making a change and you are starting conversations, and that's really where things start. It's that personal level and changing mindsets and making people passionate about some of these subjects and making it personal to them, I think is super important. 

[00:07:39] Miranda Black: Right. That's probably hard for some people. I know that I live a little loud and I don't mind when people point fingers But that's hard for some people, that's why I liked your chart of the beginner, intermediate and advanced, because maybe they want to do it a little bit more quietly.

 They might be shy to do No Mow May because it's " oh, all my neighbors are gonna point at me and say, oh, look at their messy yard". When they're really doing something great . Is there a practice that you, how do you get rid of those thoughts of " oh, it's not cool or it's not something that I...' don't, yeah, it's not on trend or whatever.

Do you find that that is changing ? 

[00:08:21] Jessica Correa: I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm in the wrong, place to, to ask that question because most of the people around me know who I am and know that I'm going to take the path less traveled.One current example, if we're heading into the talking about sustainable fashion Is yeah I'm getting married in September and I bought my dress used. And a lot of people would scoff at that and go, Ooh, that's gross. Why would you wear a wedding dress that someone else wore? Right. And, 

[00:08:49] Miranda Black: wedding dresses are one of my big bugaboos, cause it's like it's single use fashion and

[00:08:55] Jessica Correa: You're literally going to wear it once like that and I think I did get some of those, like 'ew, gross' kind of looks and stuff, but most people I think, know who I am and know that I, was going to go that route.

I think it's just living with your values, right? Like even right now, outside of my lawn, we've got a whole bunch of container gardens that we're growing. Like it's in the front yard and my mom's always like, "Ew, well that doesn't look nice". You know, it just doesn't, it doesn't look good.

And I'm like, well, I want to grow my own food. So I don't really care what it looks like. It's my house. And I had a couple of neighbors go well, where are you going to put them? I'm just like, well, I'm just gonna, I was going to leave them there. You know, my, my lawn. Right? I can leave them there if I want to.

And I think, yeah, just having the courage to not really care what people think and live true to your own values and know that that's where your heart's at, that's where your moral high ground is. And you want to make those changes. And you want to be that person As long as you can have that mental willpower to be okay with it and fight back. Right? I think that that's really key. So even in the clothing world, you know, purchasing things secondhand is one of my favorite things to do, but I also just don't shop like, and that's, a big thing.

I just don't have a lot of clothes. I like to follow. Project 3, 3, 3 type of living where you just have 33 items in your closet and you rotate them and you've got your neutrals and things that don't go out of style. And I think not giving into some of that that culture right now that's, " get the latest. Get out there and shop, spend your money" that's definitely not me. So I think that, yeah, just having, like I said, the courage to stand up against that.

[00:10:33] Miranda Black: The great thing about trends right now is it's a little bit of an, anything goes era. Style really is what an individual makes of it. as long as you feel great in your clothes, you're going to just have that confidence.

I am again, the yang to your yang. Cause I it's the 3, 3, 3 project is that I have 333 things in my wardrobe, but I also circulate my closet. I give stuff to my girlfriends and then I'm like, okay, it's time to get it back. so I might have like 333 things, but they're out there and it's not new textiles.

 So can we get into a little bit about textile waste? I don't know if it's your purview or not.

[00:11:16] Jessica Correa: I know a little bit about a lot of things, . Yeah. Textile waste is one of the leading causes of fast fashion, right? Go back to fast fashion. The industry that is constantly getting people to feel as if they're missing out on something if They don't have one of the latest trends. And usually it's like by season, but most companies are doing it almost by the week now. They're encouraging people to go out and shop because, they want to feel good and I'm all for feeling good.

it is important part of a, person's charisma and their personality. And clothing is an important expression of that. But if it comes with a destructive habit of constantly having to change clothes,

[00:11:58] Jessica Correa: nothing against people that love clothing and have a big closet, but if it becomes something that is harmful and, bad for the environment, I think you kind of need to rethink some of those things.

 I'm just gonna read here a stat that we kind of prepared. So yeah, the average person, in Canada, throws out 81 pounds of clothing every year, which is quite intense. That's quite a bit. So, kind of rethinking do you really need another piece of clothing I always think if I can get a lot of wear out of something, that's the piece that I want in my closet. How many times we hear this? There is a big movement about being a proud outfit, repeater. So wearing the same thing over and over again.

It's okay. Most of the time when people have experimented with this, they noticed that people just don't even notice

[00:12:46] Miranda Black: They don't!

[00:12:46] Jessica Correa: That their friends forgot, they don't even notice. So that really should put that seed in people's heads. Maybe you're noticing but if other people aren't noticing then, it goes to show how little attention people are really paying to what you're wearing every day.

I also found the last 15 years the industry has doubled production while the time clothing is worn before it's thrown out, has fallen by 40%. So, we are wearing our clothes far less we're not wearing what we have So that just showcases

[00:13:16] Jessica Correa: that a lot of the clothes like in our closet, we're not even wearing. So, that's why I really liked the project 3, 3, 3 mindset, because you only wear a fraction of your closet anyway. So what's the point of, having so much when really looking at it.

Uh, taking a more minimalist approach really, really helps. And I think just asking yourself the question do I really need 10 pairs of jeans? Do I only wear two or three favourites that. I rotate those and the other seven pair, I just never really wear. Right. So I think that's a big part of this.

And I think it's important for people to remember the amount of resources that go into clothing. So. For example, it takes 1800 gallons of water just to literally grow the amount of cotton it's very resource intensive. And do you really need those types of clothing? Now there is to be said about purchasing new clothing. Like I said, people like to feel confident. They change their styles, people change their weight, right.

People go up and down sizes. There is, a need to purchase clothing when appropriate. And being smart about what you're purchasing, making sure it's something that you're going to wear for a long time, it doesn't go out of style that you can get that proper wear out of it. They're actually going to wear.

Right. If you try and something that you say oh, I don't really like this. You're probably not gonna wear it. Right. 

[00:14:29] Miranda Black: Or even if you're unsure, right? If you're unsure and you're like, well, let me just take it home to see if I will don't do it.

[00:14:39] Jessica Correa: Yes exactly. don't do it. It has to be something that you love. Shopping used is super key to this, but if you are going to shop new shop for sustainable clothing brands, there are several out there. One example, Porter blue, they use 40% less water and alternative farming methods

They use 65% less energy. They are huge on making sure that their jeans are manufactured in a way that is sustainable or. Sustainable as possible. They using post-consumer recycled hardware like the buttons and that kind of thing on their jeans. So looking for a brand, if you are going to brand new, like I said, please start with used,

[00:15:18] Miranda Black: it's going to, it takes a movement to make it look. Look cool. Like I actually started thrifting when I lived outside of Peterborough.

And I remember when I was a young teenager, my first thrifting experience was in Peterborough. But it was super fringe and you looked like you were shopping vintage or whatever, you're old that girl, but I think if it can be normalized And then if more of us do it,as opposed to that group at school who are just doing it and they look super fringe. I think that if we post pictures of yourself online, and this is an entirely thrifted or an entirely streetwear outfit 

 Definitely. Like I went to a wedding and I did need a dress. I think I was trying to match somebody and these things come up. I think he was wearing orange, a tie and I needed an orange dress.

[00:16:07] Jessica Correa: And obviously I didn't have an orange dress I needed something. I went thrifting, I got a dress and shoes for like, I don't know, 20 bucks or something. And I posted it. It was entirely thrifted. I think posting about that and being okay with that and showcasing, that, you know, you can find outfits. 

The other really big thing is renting clothing. That's a big thing right now is looking for clothing that you can rent. I did mention I'm getting married in September and My fiance is from India. I definitely don't have a Lehenga lying around, none of my friends do either.

And so we found a shop outside of Toronto. It's called Meera Meera, and we all rented our Indian wear because we knew we were only gonna wear it once. So. 

[00:16:47] Miranda Black: wow.

[00:16:48] Jessica Correa: The friends. I got my Lehenga, my friends got Lehengas saris, that kind of thing. We all rented our stuff because we knew we were going to only wear it one night.

So it was something that we definitely didn't want to purchase because we probably, I'm not going to wear a bright, Lehenga with jewelry all over it any other time than this event, so, yeah, I think renting clothing needs to become more mainstream too. And there's a lot of companies... like costumes, like Halloween costumes, for example.

That's could be a huge opportunity for someone to come in and actually rent costumes because you know, you're not going to wear it every year instead of purchasing it and having all these pop-up places to get you to 

[00:17:22] Miranda Black: Oh, I know.

[00:17:23] Jessica Correa: Maybe, there could be a rental opportunity because, you know, you're just going to wear that for one day.

Why do you need to buy everything for it? So you want to have fun, but renting costumes is a big opportunity too. So stuff that you were infrequently one time, or, for 

[00:17:38] Miranda Black: it could, it could be a party idea too right? Like two weeks before Halloween, you have a pre Halloween party where everyone brings their costumes together and create costumes out of this stuff that we already have. The key is to stop the production before it starts because 70% of the greenhouse gases from clothing is produced at the point of production.

It's not later. It's not like the shipping. Yeah, sure. The shipping is bad, but most of it is created when we're creating the textiles. 

[00:18:09] Jessica Correa: for sure. 

[00:18:09] Miranda Black: So that's key to the whole operation.

[00:18:12] Jessica Correa: Yeah like you said it's about changing, your perception. I think of fashion in and of itself. Like what does it mean to you? Can you reduce what you wear and can you still feel confident, positive. And I understand that new clothes make people feel good and look good. But can you change how many items that you really need? 

 how can I reduce that need or curb that feeling like I need more clothes. 

[00:18:38] Miranda Black: Right. 

[00:18:40] Jessica Correa: Cause you don't. 

[00:18:41] Miranda Black: The thing that I get concerned about when we say okay, let's be minimalist is that people then donation bins have become a cure all for people. Oh, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to purge my wardrobe and now I have less things and I'm going to take it to this donation bin and it's going to help all these people and everyone's going to use my clothes and blah, blah, blah.

But it's such if I could have a big, huge red light emergency signal, it's that these donation bins for the most part, do not end up on the backs of humans. They end up in landfills in poor countries. So if you do have 333 things, and you're going to pair them down to 33, 

[00:19:31] Jessica Correa: Yeah. 

[00:19:32] Miranda Black: the 

[00:19:33] Jessica Correa: are we going to do with the rest? 

[00:19:34] Miranda Black: what are we going to do?

Where is it going to go?

[00:19:36] Jessica Correa: Yeah, it's a great question. And yeah, obviously, some places are doing a good job at actually recycling textiles and other places, like you say, unfortunately, a lot of the thrift chains are just literally getting to the point where they have too much stuff.

Right. And that's obviously a problem, so we need to figure out how can we repurpose, upcycle, change the way that we see that textile waste. Can it be made into something else that people need and want and can actually utilize for their day-to-day lives, right? Like how can we up cycle and repurpose these old textiles into something new and usable?

[00:20:13] Miranda Black: you, do you have any ideas? I practice direct donation, so I make sure that I take it to a friend and I'm like, let's try it on you , make sure you like it. You love it. Blah, blah, blah. I also saved somethings from my child, because they think that it's really cool and I'm like, okay , 12, 13 years old, you'll be able to wear it. It's a small capsule. And then, like I said I practice that thing where I give, to give to friends And I say, I'm going to be collecting that in a year or so. Do you have any ideas of how do you

[00:20:44] Jessica Correa: yeah, 

one of the best ways obviously Pinterest and blogs, I mean, there's tons and tons of ideas. You could turn it into reasonable bag. You can turn it into rags, you can mop your floor with old towels and that kind of thing. Like there are tons and tons of ideas.

For maybe if you're going to toss a hundred items and you're going to donate that maybe you can't do everything. Maybe you can't make it a hundred or 200 reasonable bag. . So the other idea like, maybe you host a clothing swap, right?

Like I love clothing swaps. Every season me and, my girlfriends, we host the clothing swaps. We, get out the wine and, some snacks and it's really, really fun. That helps because you're literally taking something from somebody else in you're changing clothing.

So you're not adding you're swapping. So not adding more. Right. And I think this really comes back to what we said at the beginning, it's the production of textiles, it's you actually get into that point where you have that much clothing. And so looking at it differently and going okay, who can actually wear, if I'm going to start purging who in my circle can actually use this or would want this and if not, finding and researching somebody else that could use it. Maybe there is somebody like a creator that's upcycling their clothing or making something new out of it. That's the reselling it, right? There's tons of opportunities for you to do the right thing with your clothing. You just have to do a little bit of research and figure out, okay, can somebody actually make use of this old textile instead of me just dropping it off?

Like you said, a donation bin. May hi. We likely ended up in the landfill, right? just remember your closet is one closet and your streets closets the same. we all have a lot of clothes.

So thinking, okay, maybe I don't need to just donate this and drop it off. Can I find another use for this? Or can I find somebody who needs this? There's a lot of creators and a lot of upcyclers that might have a need for it. And can you do something with it yourself too?But it is a problem and we really need to rethink the problem. We have to look at and go, how did I get to this in the first place? It really comes down to having too much to begin with. And we're driven to believe that, we need this new, this, this new that.

We have to keep changing trends in that. So that's where the route has to change. That you never get to this point where you have a thousand items or whatnot that you need to get down to a hundred. Right. You don't want to get to that point. So I think for folks that aren't yet at that point, Kind of shifting that mindset and realizing I don't need that much Right. That will help you reduce your waste all around. Regardless of whether it's fashion in your closet. 

[00:23:08] Miranda Black: yeah,

[00:23:08] Jessica Correa: Exactly. It's anything, right. It's just. Starting with the three R's, that I've been around for forever. Reduce is number one. We can't do anything until you reduce.

Then you reuse, then you can recycle one. Obviously then you go to repurpose and there's other R's that are out there. 

 But like I said, the first one is still reduce and that's gotta be where people need to start because, you're ending with re repurpose or recycle they're in that order for a reason.

And that's where we need to start things off. So, yeah, that would be my advice for. 

[00:23:38] Miranda Black: Yeah, that's great coming from the retail world. I really try to shift my clients into thinking about their stuff as inventory. because the more inventory we have, the more work you have to do to maintain your inventory. So do you really want to have to maintain this much inventory as.

You are a clothing store. Some people have as much in their wardrobe as a clothing store, and it's a lot of work to own a clothing store and to make it fresh and make sure that everything is working properly. Yeah, the reduce and refuse those are the.

Best best ones to help reduce the anxiety too. There's a lot of anxiety that goes around to having too much inventory. Okay. I just want to thank you so much for for joining me first of all, but also for having the, this optimistic attitude toward humanity really it's like you, you, you believe in us.

[00:24:37] Jessica Correa: You know? And I will thank you for, you know, bringing up the Derecho that we've just had, here in Peterborough this past week I still don't have the words to really describe what happened here, but I guess I could say that. Yeah. People are still not connecting these weather events and issues like the climate changing and I think this weekend, at least in my local community, I think people are really starting to get really worried about it. And I think we need to bring it to the forefront in fast fashion is one of the largest environmental challenges that exists today. And it's one of the great places that you can, start changing your mindset, how you see clothes, how you see shoes, how you see sweaters, everything to do with clothing. Can we change the way that we see it?

Can we change how we feel in it? Can we change? Some of the traditions, like I know even my fiance he's, like I said, from India and one of their big traditions is every Diwali and every birthday you have to buy something new, a piece of clothing, and it's a tradition. It's a tradition that, if you don't buy something new, you're not going to have good luck for the next seven years.

 That's been really hard for me cause you know, I've been like, I don't want to buy anything new, but you know, changing some of these traditions that, might need to be changed. Right. And really trying to challenge them and come up with, can we still practice Diwali and practice some of these other traditions that exist without having to purchase something new?

Can we change that? Can we challenge it? Can we find a new way? And I think that it's hard. It's going to take a long time and 

[00:26:08] Miranda Black: are you allowed to buy? Are you allowed to buy thrifted? Is that.

[00:26:12] Jessica Correa: it's not, no, it's not new. It has to be like something new. So I, I haven't really felt comfortable really participating in it because I'm like, I don't really, I don't really want to do this, 

[00:26:21] Miranda Black: Yeah. Interesting.

[00:26:23] Jessica Correa: It is a tradition. And I understand that. And I also, like I said, I do empathize with people, but they do want to feel good and clothing is a big part of their personality.

And you can't just tell people it's just like diets, right? Like, you know, all for convincing people to eat more plant-based foods, but food is so highly personal to people as with clothes that it is a hard thing. 

[00:26:44] Miranda Black: and cultural too. Yes.

[00:26:47] Jessica Correa: I don't like to tell people what to do or how to do it. We just need to give people the facts and let them decide how they want to get to that point. Maybe it is, they start with buying less clothing in a year ? Maybe they start a mini challenge where they're going to stop buying so much. Right. Or maybe they're going to move over to thrifting instead of purchasing new, right.

People need to come up with a way that it fits their comfort level and their lifestyle. And Yeah. Maybe we'll start with being a proud outfit, repeater, and that's where they start though. Okay. I'm okay. Wearing this multiple times and nobody's gonna notice, they have to check off like, the beginner intermediate and the advanced, come up with something that's a low hanging fruit that you can start with and you'll start to feel that it can get easier for you, right? Just slowly adding a few green acts into your life is great. And hopefully, fashion is something you can start to shift your mindset about because it's one of the biggest ways that you can make an impact.

that's 

[00:27:37] Miranda Black: Yeah. Yeah. There were some people on the red carpet for the met gala this year. It was a very small percentage, but if we're talking about shifting people's mindsets by a small percentage, and the fact that the media even talked about these people that is a shift in itself, I wish that the Met Gala would do one where it's all recycled fashion, let's see Beyonce show up in an entirely reused outfit, but done in a really interesting way. They have the resources and I would love, I would love see that. 

[00:28:08] Jessica Correa: Exactly and that it's going to happen where it's going to eventually catapult and compound. Because those little things start compounding. We even see it with plant-based diets slowly, but surely people start with the meatless Mondays, and then they start other transitions as well.

Fashion is the same thing, we need to slowly start transitioning. And like you said, it's going to happen, it's small little things. And it's people in a place of influence it's people that are going to, post that on social media. even just talking about it with friends or family like me purchasing my dress used, might plant that seed for others, or maybe it won't but at least people will see that I took that action. So even that spark of idea, saying you can do this. Yes, it is possible. There are solutions here.

And when I'm done with my dress, I will be returning it back to that location for hopefully another bride to wear. Yeah,

those small areas where you can make an impact. Think differently learn like a podcast like this. Pay attention. Start being the change you want to see, I think that's one of the best quotes ever, but be the change you want to see in the world, because, if it's not you then who?

And Yeah. Be bold and take some of those actions

[00:29:14] Miranda Black: right.

[00:29:15] Jessica Correa: and do the hard stuff doing the hardest is a super important too, so 

[00:29:18] Miranda Black: yeah, 

[00:29:18] Jessica Correa: Thank you so 

[00:29:18] Miranda Black: you so much. So nice to talk to you. 

Jessica's quote, if not you, then who reminded me of Horton Hears a Who. You remember that book? 

The Who's only needed the addition of that one smallest voice to tip the whole effort to be heard and saved over the top. Random Acts of Green is like Horton begging all of us, no matter how small to join in and get loud. 

Okay. So this episode focused on our why, but we need a how and a, what, what is sustainable style? How do you get it? There's a small, but growing number of sustainable stylist in New York throughout Europe. But one that really intrigued me, she's from New Zealand. She's got great tips on how to start your sustainable style journey 

[00:30:00] Jess Rafills: you see all of these synthetic fibers in op shops, big, bulky, awful knits. They look horrible. Why are people still buying these? If you're just starting out on your journey and you are a bit stuck as to where to go, starting with not buying cheap network is huge. 

[00:30:22] Miranda Black: Ah, that accent makes everything seem possible. Don't miss my interview with Jess Raffs from The Finder's Life all the way from New Zealand next week. 

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